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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 20, 2009 11:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dark Stars by Year

Gotta go with 1969....the jams grow in length and jazziness but don't venture too far out into ridiculous feedback/SpinalTap/Space nonsense as they do in the '72-'74 years everyone else seems to love.

Here's my all-time favorite DARK STAR:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-10-25.sbd.jagla.81.sbefail.shnf

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Poster: deadmax Date: Jan 20, 2009 9:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dark Stars by Year

Grendel, THAT is my favorite Dark Star also. I'm glad that at least ONE OTHER PERSON has even heard it. The 11/2 version is a Twin to this one for me. I love this version/show.

Glad to see it made someone's list.

(especially Grendle whose posts I think bear some weight.)

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 21, 2009 8:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dark Stars by Year

Great minds, Max! Glad to hear we share the same opinion of this fine version. Nice to hear from you again as well on the ol' forum.

we're joined by StyrofoamCueball as well (one of my favorite handles on the forum, btw), apparently....scroll down.

This post was modified by grendelschoice on 2009-01-21 16:26:46

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Poster: Edsel Date: Jan 21, 2009 9:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dark Stars by Year

This is my favorite, also from '69
Actually, I love this entire show, even tho it is hacked up and misssing parts, it doesn't seem to matter.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-02-05.sbd.cotsman.8993.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: Rings&Bells Date: Jan 20, 2009 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dark Stars by Year

Thanks for the rec; hadn't heard that one before and it's nice and melodic with some intense Jerry.

I don't think that they really ventured into the realm of what I deem "unnecessary" feedback/space until '73. '72 has a boat load of tight jamming and minimal weirdness, although a couple versions get too out there (5/18 comes to mind).

This post was modified by Rings&Bells on 2009-01-20 20:39:36

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 20, 2009 2:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dark Stars by Year

Hey R&B..

If you can recommend some tasty '72 DarkStars that don't get into that atonal weirdness (i.e. I really don't need to hear Phil do a bass solo for 3 mins w/in a DS, or Jerry doing his best to scare my dog) please let me know where I can find them...I really believe that song is at its best when it explores thru jazz and jams, not space & crazy loud cacophony....

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Poster: Rings&Bells Date: Jan 20, 2009 6:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dark Stars by Year

If your qualifications are absolutely no atonal weirdness and no bass solo, it's going to be hard. 4/8/72, from what I remember, only has a brief spacey post-verse segment, and the rest is tight, cohesive jamming. Since that is on a commercial release, another you might look into is 9/10/72 which has a somewhat-spacey post-verse but an 18 minute (about the length of a '69 version) pre-verse that is the kind of fantastic musical fulfillment that a '72 Star can offer.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-09-10.sbd.winters.17690.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jan 20, 2009 6:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dark Stars by Year

'72 Stars without the atonal weirdness....well, I think Europe '72 is the place to look, though some of them do get noisy. I could probably single out 4/8/72 as one that's solid jamming all the way; 5/7/72 is also a good concise version. I would recommend 5/25/72 as one of the very best, but it is very long & spacy, so perhaps not your flavor.
Later in the year, 10/18/72 is perhaps the one that sticks mostly to melodic themes, though there is a Phil solo (a nice one, I think).
First half of '73 is also full of Stars that are more smooth & pretty rather than dissonant dins.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jan 20, 2009 6:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dark Stars by Year

"I really believe that song is at its best when it explores thru jazz and jams, not space & crazy loud cacophony...."

100% agree; cheers

'68 has some fairly compact Dark Stars, but i love them; that year, combined with '69, is the place to travel